Analysis of the Fake MDM Message dated 6 May 2015

I fear that you are using an overabundance of human logic to interpret the Messages – this on your part plays heavily into distraction and not being obedient to Christ when He says we are not to interpret His Holy Word. They stand on their own and cannot lie. I have studied your highlights and find that you are seeking clues where there are none. What you should be doing is praying for the Gift of Discernment without condemnation or judgement because if you are wrong, then you too have committed Blasphemy which will deny Christ’s children from finding the Truth. Many are seeking your counsel because you are the Remnant Clergy but by making baseless opinion on this latest Message which is True and Sacrosanct no matter the grammatical or typo errors contained (as the prophet is human and she is the writer, not the Author) you are on a slippery slope in leading these flock astray. This is not the Authority you were given. You are asked by Christ in His Messages previous or otherwise to remain obedient and loyal – this is a test for all of us but particularly His clergy are and will continue to be at the beckoning of satan to draw you away from these Messages and away from God’s Truth – the Book of Truth! This is why Jesus pronounces that we listen to these Messages given to this prophet AT THIS TIME – THE TIME OF THE END – the End Time prophet who writes what Jesus tells her. This is the only Mission for the End Times giving us the foretold of Book of Truth. No one else, not another prophet has been given this specific task, although their tasks are somewhat common – they are not given any information about Christ’s Second Coming and the preparation involved. This is very specific and Jesus has asked for our absolute focus. What causes distraction and confusion is when those who claim they follow Christ in His Mission to mankind, twist and turn His Word into something that they define as Truth when in fact it is not what He Said or what He meant. Do not for the sake of your souls step back from the Truth sent to us through these Messages or this latest Message which is as authentic as all the others – one cannot be a lie because then all others would be deemed to be lies. This is not possible! We know this is Truth – those who believe with all their heart and soul in Christ’s Word through this Mission – we are not permitted to interpret. We are not permitted to give opinion away from Truth. We are not to make logical and humanistic conclusions about His Word. Be very careful now as we enter the darkest time in the history of mankind. Humanity are now on the precipice and we look to our shepherds, the True shepherds to guide Chríst’s lambs -The Remnant – the New Jerusalem to Paradise!

Relax, Remnant Clergy (RC):

I have looked over your objections to the “MDM” message. I believe you may be reading too much into some details; not that I am ready to say that this is the authentic MDM. I shall follow these new messages with a mind open to the possibility that this might be a counterfeit. It would be interesting to see if the writer can explain why she cancelled the old website and restarted a new one. The issue of authenticity would be settled if she simply reactivated the original website. Instead, she now uses a different website, raising the issue. Why? Is there a reasonable motive for this? Let’s see if “MDM” is forthcoming in providing an cogent explanation…

Your first objection about “grammar” I think rather tends to confirm the message as authentic, not make it suspicious. I have often winced at errors of grammar and questionable English style in the messages. To find more of the same types of errors and stylistic clumsiness in this new message is simply to discover a parallel quality it has with previous messages of MDM. On the other hand, if this last were a perfectly written message, impeccable in style and grammar, it would rather raise doubts in me about its authorship. I find little merit in your first objection, and in the second one too, which is similar.

The third objection about the “destruction of Satan” can easily be dismissed as a figure of speech in a message such as this written in a colloquial style. I can say “I drink a glass of water”, and it is understood that I drink the water, not the glass. Likewise, I can say “I destroy Satan”, or “I destroy Field Marshall Erwin Rommel”, to mean, not that I destroy Satan or the famous German military leader, but that I destroy their plans or the execution of their plans. There is no need to see a deep theological statement in this spontaneous colloquialism.

About the issue of judging the “living”, this is a delicate point. Remember that “the living” for God and for men represent two different concepts. For example, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are alive for God but quite dead for most of us earth-dwelling human beings; and this holds not only for the Sadduccees but for men in general. As reported in Matthew 22:31-33, Jesus speaking to the Sadduccees and to us says:

31″But regarding the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God: 32’I AM THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, AND THE GOD OF ISAAC, AND THE GOD OF JACOB ‘? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.” 33 When the crowds heard this, they were astonished at His teaching.

Astonished indeed, Jesus calls “alive” those three patriarchs whom we can only consider to be quite “dead”. In normal human parlance, they are the deadest among the dead, probably not even bones but all reduced to dust!(The raising of the dead Lazarus back to life, in John 11, provides another example of the diverse meanings of living and dead that should be considered too.) “MDM” may be saying something more subtle than what at first meets the eye. Perhaps it might have something to do with a “rapture”? Or maybe she writes with the mindset (of God?) that “the dead” have already been judged and condemned, but not “the living” — as considered such by God? In any case, I think you need to consider the meanings of “living” and “dead” before drawing any conclusions.

I think your last point is the most relevant and important. An authentic prophet listens and respects the Word of God. It does not matter if that Word manifests in her person or another person (or the Bible, or the Magisterium, or the local ordinary).

Note that at this point we have slipped into another issue. One thing is to discuss whether “MDM” and MDM are the identical person and spirit. Another is whether either of them is of God.

In fine, it may not matter whether MDM and “MDM” be different persons: maybe the same spirit moves them? Remember that the spirit of Elijah was also the spirit that prophesied through the “voice shouting out in the desert”, who was St John the Baptist. It should come as no surprise that if the devil and his minions silence one prophet, God raises another to continue the mission.

The words of Christ the King come to my mind, in his answer to the Pharisees, who would have had him silence the “Hosannas” of the throng as he entered Jerusalem mounted on a donkey. He answered the Pharisees, “I tell you, if they were to keep silent, the very stones would cry out!” (Luke 19:40). In effect, God could confer on the stones the mission of prophesy, in place of the silenced human prophets!

MDM might be shut down, but not the Holy Spirit. And as such might be the case, then maybe “MDM” (not unlike the stones) might be a substitute of the original, different in person but identical in mission. If that is so, then my queries above, too, might be out of bounds. Who am I to ask “MDM” for credentials based on my human prudence regarding the website? She could be God’s legitimate continuer of the first MDM, using another website. She, as one obeying God’s command, would have every right to take up the first MDM’s mission where it was left, in spite of my all too human misgivings. (All the same, it would be nice if she could present human credentials… At least it would make us feel more secure about her.)

So much for the continuity between one MDM and another succeeding her: there is nothing about their identity or identities that would lead me to conclusively condemn this new message or its ultimate source. Pushing onward, your objection eventually must lead to the crucial matter of whether the “spirit” of MDM or “MDM”, is authentic. I believe that both seers (or the one seer) assert a certain exclusivity of mission, implying that the same spirit moves them in an identical mission and, at the same time, puts them/her above the other myriad prophets in our day proclaiming the advent of the end times.

I do not have time to research the matter, but you, RC, who apparently are well read in MDM’s messages, should try to verify if this note of exclusivity is in the earlier messages known to be from the first MDM. I think that would suffice to identify the two as possibly one person and almost certainly as partaking in the same spirit and mission of prophecy.

What I can recall of the earlier messages, and of my earlier reflection and conclusion on this matter of exclusivity, is that IF GOD chooses one prophet for a specific mission, who dare stop Him? Can He not send one prophet on one mission, another on another? What is so strange that MDM should be called to prophesy to the whole world at large as “the” end times prophet, helped by hundreds of others prophesying the end times but to more restricted regions or cultures or under other aspects?

There are other prophets right now prophesying in other languages. Here is the website of “Jesus el buen pastor” (Jesus, the Good Shepherd), supposedly a Colombian priest prophesying for Colombia in these end times. He may be an authentic prophet, with a role complimentary to that of MDM.

http://www.mensajesdelbuenpastorenoc.org/english.html

And there are many hundreds or even thousands of others seers posting on the internet and especially on You Tube. This fact alone seems to verify MDM in part: we are living in the end times, as predicted by Joel’s prophesy of a great outpouring of the Holy Spirit over humanity. It is remarkable how well so many of these prophecies coincide. (Yes, it could be a mass, hysterical deception; we must discern!)

So while the statement you underline of MDM/”MDM”, namely,

“Listen to Me only through these messages at this time”,

does justify an attitude of caution, I think it does not justify by itself a condemnation. “Only through these messages” does not imply “exclude outright all the other prophetic messages”. It might mean, “read the other messages in light of these overarching messages given to you exclusively”. In other words, more is needed to conclude that the narrower (heretical, possibly schismatic) interpretation is the one intended by MDM.

Maybe God has chosen MDM to be the prophet of the end times to the whole world; “Enoch”, only to Colombia and other Latinamerican countries; and many others still as other more local or cultural witnesses.

It is in this sense that I have understood MDM’s mission. I do not think it is inconsistent with God’s way of using his prophets. Think of Daniel’s prophesies: these set out the future history of the world; and in that sense, Daniel was the “prophet of prophets” for the Old Testament, insofar as the other prophets tended to have a smaller scope for their prophecies, and therefore, a certain subordination to Daniel. Something similar could be said regarding St John Evangelist’s Book of the Apocalypse with regard to the prophecies of the New Testament. Now if God chooses to pick MDM/”MDM” as a prophetess among the prophets, we should respect the divine will and choice.

So I am not so sure that this note of exclusivity, that you are quite right to point out, is necessarily a contradiction. Yours is a wise cautionary note to keep in mind. Nevertheless,it may be that MDM’s prophetic mission is at the top of a hierarchy among prophetic missions, and this is not inconsistent with God’s earlier prophetic missions but quite in step with His ways of ordering his prophets.

Maybe the intention of this “exclusivity” means that we should consider MDM as the normative prophesy in a way analogous to the way Daniel and St John’s prophecies are normative in the Bible: as setting the hierarchical structure under which the other prophecies — also from God — are to be interpreted. Thus understood, this exclusivity would not contradict or exclude other prophecies, but indicate a dialectical tension among them which is quite typical in God’s dealing with mankind through his Word.

So I do not think that the note of exclusivity represents a contradiction but only a dialectical tension, which we must make sure does not become a true contradiction, excluding other words coming from God. That would happen if she invalidates all other prophesies. Such an attitude is certainly not of God. The Holy Spirit respects all of his prophesies, it does not matter who utters them, whether a learned Pope or Balaam’s donkey.

Finally, I should mention that I know a number of prophets or visionaries at a personal level. They are from humble walks of life, who do not take money from anyone, who have made previous predictions that came true or revealed super-human knowledge (e.g., the names of devils possessing particular persons, later expelled by use of their names with the authority of Christ). I trust them as friends and brothers in the Lord. Off hand, I would say that at least five of these have confirmed from their prayers that MDM is authentic, that “Enoch” is authentic, and that many of the prophecies they give are authentic. No, they do not agree with them on everything, but I would guess that a better than 80-percent agreement prevails among them. I have not yet put to them the question about the authenticity of this new message of “MDM”. I shall on the next opportunity (if I don’t forget). It will be interesting to see what they say, but not conclusive.

What will be conclusive for me? I am waiting for the realization of that horrendous apostasy prophesied by MDM (and by all but one of these mystics whom I know personally): if Pope Francis proves once and for all that I should write his title between parentheses (i.e., “Pope Francis”) by misusing his authority to destroy the absolute centrality of the Holy Eucharist in the liturgy and in Christian life, and displacing God in favor of “humanity” or any other similarly contrived blasphemy, then MDM will be proven to be authentic in my judgement. Until then, I keep an “open mind”. — I had better clarify: I keep a mind open to truth and closed to error.

Again, I say that RC ought to relax, let his hair down,… not be so inclined to see evil where it might not be. Yes, I know it’s hard in our times of deceptions and betrayals even at the highest levels, but pessimism has its dangers too, the devil can devour us with it.

Sincerely, Fr Edgar R

PS. I apologize to RC if I should be forced by limited time to not respond to any more concerns he may have regarding MDM. Besides, I have more questions than answers, as can be seen from my extensive note. Let’s watch and pray.

The message IS authentic! It is from Jesus speaking to MDM!
The message was published at http://www.dasbuchderwahrheit.de which is the official German Website representing the Book of Truth. The website’s Operator is in contact with Mary. He got the message from her.

With all due respect brothers and sisters in Christ please stop this arguments, don’t you noticed that we are been fooled by the devil, he (satan) just created a division in us. Can’t we just forget this particular message and forget all the accusations we just made with each other. Jesus does not promote division in GOD’s children , we must unite in prayers, we must forgive each other, we must respect each others opinion, the enemies are so powerful, if we are not united in faith and in prayer we will be fooled and destroyed by the devil. So please stop this arguments, we are in the path of divisiveness and destruction Let peace remain in our hearts for Jesus our Lord is the KING OF PEACE!