From Maria Divine Mercy
[Note: anyone with open spiritual eyes saw the brazen attempt to promote heresy at the October 2014 Synod. There was a sufficient minority of prelates who pushed back on valuing sodomy and giving Holy Communion to adulterers. However, you can see the continued push, particularly by the German apostate prelates, who want to continue further down the path of apostasy, especially with the practical threat of schism mentioned here. Given the coming October 2015 Synod, along with new cardinals appointed by Francis, there should be enough votes for apostasy to reach the two-thirds majority and “approve” of heresy. Hence Christmas 2015 seems to be the likely time for this travesty.]Next Christmas the celebration of My Birth will be replaced by a great ceremony
My dearly beloved daughter, I Am the Word made Flesh. My Body embraces the world today, but the world, while it may celebrate Christmas, is impervious to My Plan of Salvation.
Christmas has become no longer a celebration of My Birth, but a pagan substitute, where every honour is handed over in the pursuit of falsities. How weak the faith of Christians has become. How they have forgotten all that I taught the world. How much they care about material comforts, which will only turn to dust, and where they ignore, completely, the state of their souls.
The times have fallen upon you where the faith of most Christians has become so weak that there is little discussion or reference made to My Glorious Divinity. My Teachings no longer hold any real meaning in your lives and many priests no longer love Me as they should. No, My daughter, they do not truly know Me at all.
I will not rest until My Voice is heard, until I awaken you to the call to renew your faith. Soon your faith in Me will weaken even further. So busy will you become, engrossed in political affairs, relating to countries where war and poverty are rampant, that you will forget Me. I will be substituted in your faith by My enemies, who pose as My servants and who will lead you further and further away from Me.
Next Christmas, the celebration of My Birth will be replaced by a great ceremony, which will applaud the work of those imposters, who parade in My Church, wearing the garments which serve only to fool the faithful. On that day, they will applaud the god of social justice [Note: modernist heretics have long promoted ‘social justice’ as a way to deny dogma and doctrine and condone sin], human rights and the money they will say that they have raised for the world’s hungry. But know this. All these things presented to the world in My Holy Name, serve only one purpose. That is to take you away from the Word, which is My Flesh. My Flesh is of My Body. My Body is My Church. When those who say they are of My Church do not venerate My Holy Word, but instead, embrace and try to control the world’s politics, then they can never say they are of Me. The time has come for the division – the schism foretold – to take place and it will be swift.
You can only love one God and the only way to My Father is through Me, His Only-Begotten Son. Separate yourselves from Me in pursuits of political campaigns, which strive to promote human rights and social justice as a substitute for the Word, then you will deny Me.
My Heart is heavy at this time. I give you this warning so that you do not fall into error and into the most cunning trap, which will be placed before you by the disciples of My nemesis – the devil.
Your Jesus
Pope Francis has the same schedule as last year for Christmas http://www.romereports.com/pg155214-check-out-pope-francis-schedule-for-christmas-and-new-years-en
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com.au/2014/12/st-fido-pope-francis-says-our-pets-will.html?m=1
Guess what? The prophet of the god of surprises reveals that pets go to heaven !
Which has what to do with the fact that this “prophecy” is bogus? Do you always change the subject because you have no other answer? And by the way, outside of the crazy MSM there is no evidence Pope Francis said that. Rorate is actually citing USA Today as a source? Try this one: http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Blog/3567/did_pope_francis_really_say_all_dogs_go_to_heaven.aspx
So you, sentenil, have become a prophet and capable of predicting the future? That is what you must be claiming by declaring the “no” Christmas prophecy of MDM “bogus.” Everyone swooning over Francis thought Holy Week 2013 AND 2014 would be kosher also but, . . . SURPRISE! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPbvaBdIlEQ MDM predicted the 2013 “wicked gesture” and Garabandal required the 2014 Abomination in St Peter’s. What predictions have you made that have come to pass?
David, you can start better by not putting words in my mouth. I claimed rather that this was a bogus prophecy; I didn’t pretend to be a prophet myself. You are grasping at straws if you think what happened in Holy Week was an “abomination”. I am not going to watch the video of a self described “eagle of the apocalypse”. Seriously? That’s all you have? Try instead to remain on the topic.
Claiming this a bogus prophecy before the event could even take place makes you claim yourself be a prophet. The video is only a report of what actually took place not a prophetic prediction as you have made.
I am not a prophet but the pope’s schedule for Christmas is already out. No prophecy needed, only reading comprehension The video looks like a long ramble by a self appointed “prophet”. Why bother? Private revelations that are important will get approved. Those that are not will never be approved. Jesus is not so feeble that he cannot accomplish that, it is still His Church.
What does this so-called “schedule” have to do with some sort of blasphemous ceremony that the Heretic-in-Chief is perfectly diabolical enough to pull off? By the way, the worst enemies of Christ have reading comprehension ( an academic gift ) but no humility and no discernment of the truth.
You miss the point. mdm is specifically predicting a BIG change in how we celebrate Christmas and that it would happen this year. The Pope’s schedule shows no such thing.
Of what value is opinion in the light of truth?
The Gospel According To St. John (1:4-5)
[4] In him was life, and the life was the light of men. [5] And the light shineth in darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
The dark curtain of pride, love of our own ideas, rejects the light of truth that does not conform to our desires.
What can we comprehend, what can we possibly see without the light of truth?
I leave you with the last word … until Dec 25. May God bless you and yours this Christmas.
NOTE THE TIMING OF THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE-SUBJECT WHICH BEGINS CHRISTMAS:
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=23671
Vatican raffling off papal items in charity fundraiser
Catholic World News – January 06, 2015
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A raffle of items owned by Pope Francis, organized to raise money for charity, will end on Thursday, January 7.
For weeks the Vatican has been selling raffle tickets for a variety of items, most of them donated to the Pope. The list of prizes includes wristwatches, a suitcase, bicycles, and– as the grand prize– a Fiat Panda automobile.
Tickets for the auction have only been available at the Vatican. The winning numbers will be announced on January 7.ctrla
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PHOTO: Pope Francis delivers his speech as he celebrates a New Years Eve vespers Mass
Pope Francis delivers his speech as he celebrates a New Year’s Eve vespers Mass in St. Peter’s Basilica at the Vatican, Dec. 31, 2014.
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Pope Francis is cleaning out his closets and raffelling off items that range from a hat to a Fiat car he never used.
The pope’s raffle of items that were given to him will end this Thursday when the winning numbers will be announced on the Vatican website. But you can only buy tickets at the Vatican.
The pope is raising money for the poor through the raffle that was first publicized by a poster that went up at the Vatican around November.
Among the 13 items are a new four-wheel-drive Fiat Panda, a leather suitcase, a Homero Ortega Panama-style hat, an espresso coffee machine, watches and bicycles the pope has received.
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PHOTO: Details of a ticket of the Popes raffle is seen at the Vatican Post office in Vatican City
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PHOTO: Details of a ticket of the Pope’s raffle is seen at the Vatican Post office in Vatican City
The Fiat car that the pope is raffling is not his famous white “Popemobile,” which is a 1984 Renault 4.
In addition to the 13 items listed, there are more than 30 unspecified “consolation prizes.” It’s not clear who gave the raffle items to Pope Francis.
Tickets for the raffle cost 10 euros, which is about $12 these days, thanks to the falling value of the European currency.
Aiding the homeless and the poor has been a frequent topic of conversation with the pope, who received 400 sleeping bags with the seal of the Vatican sewed on as his birthday present. They were distributed to needy in Rome.
It is the pope’s initiative to make headlines. Last month he was credited with being crucial in the thaw of U.S.-Cuba relations.
PHOTO: A ticket for the raffle of Pope Francis gifts, the winners of which will be announced Jan. 8, 2015.
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PHOTO: A ticket for the raffle of Pope Francis’ gifts, the winners of which will be announced Jan. 8, 2015.<+3
And what is so terribly wrong about this raffle — and outright hypocritical — (I think on purpose here because it sends a completely anti-Christian signal in complete contrast to the Christmas Gift of Christ) is that in a raffle the participants are tempted to think of gaining something of greater value than what they put up for it, and further, the sponsor wishes for as many losers (more paying participants than items) as possible to increase his revenues. The entire gambling industry and the US Lotto scam promotes the very same evils within the hearts of men. Apparently “Thou shalt not covet” means little to many these days including Francis. To cover the evil this is called a game or “money raised for a good cause.” But as they say, “Is a rose by any other name not a rose?” So once again we see perverted Jesuit ethics with the end justifying the means.
If money was to be raised properly for the poor should not have these items been placed up for bids? This could easily have been done on the internet. How much of this money was raised because of real love for the poor? I think very little, at least not in a true pure sense, and that is the major evil here. It is the same evil fundamental to state welfare through forced taxation. This not only removes us from and destroys opportunity for personal charity but leaves the poor recipients of the the little that they do end up with even less reason to believe there is real love in society around them. So this is not a real charity but a fraud, an offense to God and a denial of Christmas, a denial of Christ –a true, official, “Great Ceremony” replacing Christmas, giving only a deceitful impression by powerful advocates of forced government welfare of care for the poor. When language meant something this was called communism or socialism and condemned in the most harshest terms by the Church.
The Holy act of the Magi giving gifts to the Christ child is reversed profanely by the False Prophet. Instead of honoring Jesus with gifts he honors the poor with profane items sold in a corrupt manner as David as shown. The “god of social justice” certainly has been worshipped in this act. Didn’t Judas propose the same act to our Lord when he said ” Why waste this expensive oil when we could sell it and give the money to the poor?”
Excellent points Stephen-especially on Judas! And if the money raised does go “to the poor” in the way it does here in the US via “Catholic Charities” or “Catholic Campaign for Human Development” not a penny will go for any authentic Catholic pro-Life ministries. CCHD has sent millions over the past years to fund completely anti-Catholic groups supporting everything from socialism (state welfarism) to “reproductive justice”, (i.e., abortion) and “marriage equality” (gay “marriage”)
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“CEREMONY: 3. ANY FORMAL ACT OR OBSERVANCE, ESPECIALLY A MEANINGLESS ONE”. This ceremony was worse than meaningless. It was both deceitful and one to replace Christmas precisely as was revealed fully a year previously!
“The Lord sees not as man sees, man sees the outward appearance but the Lord looks upon the heart”
Thank you Dave. You too make good points. And many others who comment on Remnant Clergy.
Methinks this raffle does, indeed, fulfill this prophecy. I looked up a dictionary meaning of the word CERIMONY and it can mean any religious or public event , including awarding prizes. So it meets the requirements.
Also to [email protected] well done!
Not only that, if you compare what Jesus said in that message, to Francis December 25-th “Urbi and Orbi” and you read these, you’ll discover a list of his and his friends humanitarian achievements… instead praising God… ALL GLORY TO HUMANITARIAN ACTIONS…
Do you know, I think you are right! Esp after reading the prophecy again. It ticks a lot of boxes. There was one other event that I wondered about, near Christmas time. There was a soccer match organised with famous singers, dressed lewdly, singing questionable songs, along with other famous entities present. It was organised by PF. Rainbow banners were flown and basically, the events unquestionably amounted to a ceremony before the game. It was a bit of a flop so it didn’t get much coverage. Or maybe because the Illuminati owned media didn’t want us clue-ing in to it as ‘the’ ceremony. Lastly, although it was a soccer match for peace, I think, it also raised money for the homeless or a humanitarian cause. It reminded me of the Live Aid Concert organised in the 80’s. The raffle may have been the tail end of the whole effort. Certainly PF Christmas speech did not say anything which focused on the Glory or Divinity of Jesus, but almost completely was about serving the poor (in their physical needs). I also wondered why midnight mass was not celebrated by PF. In fact any sort of recognition ceremony could have been held by his cronies later that night for their social justice efforts, as there was plenty of time after his last sermon/’mass’.
But as Pina says the achievements were already named in public at Christmas.
You guys are really reaching. The “prophecy” said Christmas would be “replaced”. It didn’t happen.
People like you don’t understand how chastisements are delayed by sufficient repentance. Don’t you know your infallible Bible? Jonah said that Nineveh would be destroyed in 40 days, and it wasn’t. Was Jonah a liar? Is the Bible false? NO. Are you wrong? YES.
The mdm messages have not told us that. And the prophecy was not given as a conditional. What you are doing is grasping at the all purpose solution! Oh, we can just tell ’em that enough penance was done. Don’t you think it is kind of odd how you trumpet the supposed prophecies of mdm that came true and then go shopping for other explanations when one fails? Yes, I believe my infallible bible especially Deuteronomy chapter 18, verse 22: “You shall have this sign: Whatsoever that same prophet foretells in the name of the Lord, and it comes not to pass: that thing the Lord has not spoken, but the prophet has forged it by the pride of his mind: and therefore you shall not fear him.
Wrong, ye of little faith. Read Jonah 3:4 “And Jonas began to enter into the city one day’s journey: and he cried, and said: Yet forty days, and Niniveh shall be destroyed.” There are no words written of delay for repentance.
You don’t understand God’s Mercy, nor his infallible words in the Bible. Hence you misinterpret Dueteronomy also. Following your faulty human logic, then Jonah is also a false prophet because his prophecy did not come true within the time specified. Then that would also make the Church faulty because it declares the Bible to be infallible. Hence you make Jesus Himself a liar because He founded the Church and inspired the Biblical writers. Such is the logical consequence of your grave malicious error.
Yes, Nineveh was destroyed, but many years later, far far after 40 days.
Don’t worry, this prophecy will come to pass. And then you will be accountable to God for dissing, especially in public, his prophecies and prophets. Woe to you!
Prophecy in the Old Testament was conditional as this passage from Jeremiah makes clear: “If at any time I declare concerning a nation or a kingdom that I will pluck up and break down and destroy it, and if that nation, concerning which I have spoken, turns from its evil, I will repent of the evil that I intended to do to it” (Jer. 18:7-8) Private revelation is quite different, and always prone to error. How can mdm’s prophecy “come to pass” when the time has already passed. Deuteronomy is quite clear except for those who don’t want to accept it. Private revelations does NOT bind anyone as the Church teaches, hence no one can be held responsible for “dissing” it.
Where do you get such an opinion? Where in Church teaching does it say private revelation is conditional only if explicitly mentioned, but Biblical revelation is conditional even when explicit conditions aren’t mentioned? Cannot you not see your self contradictory argument? You fail in basic logic, hence your discernment can only be corrupted for anything related to prophetic interpretation. When you can be logical, only then can a conversation continue.
All revelation from God is consistent since God speaks it.
And your comment that private revelation doesn’t bind anyone is erroneous on two counts. First, you think that you can diss private revelation because one is not bound to believe it. So you can publicly diss Fatima and Akita and Lourdes and Rue du Bac, etc? If no, then why not?
Second, not being bound to belief is limited to that necessary for salvation. We are required to believe in dogma. However, failure in the virtue of prudence can cause great suffering and loss of many souls. Example: way back in the first days of Fatima, the consecration of Russia was asked for. What was the prophecy if that didn’t happen? Another world war. So the pope and bishops back then allowed WW2 to occur because of refusal to obey private revelation, at the cost of astronomical suffering. Tell me why that is good, all because we didn’t have to believe?
Recall Gamaliel in the Bible – Acts 5:35,39 “And he said to them: Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what you intend to do, as touching these men. … But if it be of God, you cannot overthrow it, lest perhaps you be found even to fight against God. And they consented to him.” Oh yes, you are accountable to God when you attack His Words, even in private revelation. You’ll certainly find out at the Warning, which is in the Bible, the 6th Seal.
Church teaching tells us private revelations are prone to error, and that is why they do not bind anyone. I don’t fail logic you fail Scripture as my quote from Jeremiah shows. Sure there were consequences for not doing things asked for at Fatima but that is only one element. The consecrations are not magic, without a general repentance and the fulfillment of Our Lady’s other requests, we cannot expect much. And you speak of the consecration of Russia being asked for in the “early days” of Fatima? That was not asked for until 1929 in fact in the apparition at Tuy. Dissing approved private revelations is not something I do, but it is not required for anyone to believe them. mdm of course is not and never will be approved. I was involved in the bogus Bayside apparitions in 1976 and used to tell people the Warning was imminent and so was the “chastisement” which only shows how FAR OFF unapproved private revelations are and why no one should take a chance on them. The instance of Gamaliel does not apply here as the Apostles were preaching the Gospel which must be believed. Yeah, at Bayside we used to defend ourselves by citing Gamaliel too, ha, ha. God is not so weak that He could not get mdm approved if that was His plan. Obviously, it is not.
Ah, one who has lost faith in prophecy because God’s Mercy of delay is too great for you. Not enough patience. The Warning could have occurred in 1972, when the smoke of satan entered the Church as Pope Paul VI said. Just like the workers who complained about the days wages when workers with less time got the full amount. When the Warning – 6th Seal in the infallible Bible – comes, you will certainly know your errors. And you will find Bayside to be true also, much to your chagrin. All Western world prophets of the end times have been rejected by the hierarchy and those of little faith who cannot see the signs of the season. No surprise, since Jesus Himself was rejected by the hierarchy of His day and faithless of His First Coming. What goes around comes around.
As various saints explained, there is an Intermediate or Middle coming, the hidden one, and that is the Warning. Go look it up. As the Church teaches through St. Thomas Aquinas in Summa Theologica that “at all times there have not been lacking persons having the spirit of prophecy, not indeed for the declaration of any new doctrine of faith, but for the direction of human acts” (St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica II-II q174 a6 reply 3). Fatima is a great example where nothing was done as requested. I used “early days of Fatima” to mean before it was approved in 1930.
The infallible Bible says not to despise prophecy but hold fast to that which is good. That command is in the infallible Bible. That directly contradicts your “don’t take a chance” nonsense. And so does St. Thomas Aquinas.
I repeat, woe to you blind souls who attack God’s prophets. Souls like you will learn the hard way.
SENTENIL, you may very well believe the Bible to be infallible, wonderful, good for you! You’re at least far ahead of the apostates that deny that the Scriptures are an accurate historical account of divine communication to divinely chosen people. But do you not see that you DO NOT — as you and all other Protestants so strongly insist– believe the Bible is your ONLY rule of faith and practice? The Bible is not at all the ONLY rule for ANYONE! That is a deception — and its an obvious one! It’s self evident. Thousands of conflicting Protestant interpretations of the Bible can only mean that all Protestants IN THE END place their own faulty reasoning above the Bible AND INVARIABLY ALSO ONE OR MORE OTHERS THEY TRUST BEFORE THEIR OWN PERSONAL JUDGMENT IS MADE of the Bible’s teaching on its hundreds of points.
Now as a former Baptist pastor convert to Catholicism (yes even with seminary training!), I DO NOT AT ALL CRITICIZE THAT. We ALL must eventually PERSONALLY decide what we will believe! The “Bible only” doctrine was ENTIRELY a deception created for one purpose only — to keep you from EVER examining THE CATHOLIC FAITH–PERIOD! That is the deception that plagues all good Protestants and keeps them from so much wonderful truth. ANY PROTESTANT who is humble of heart (with the Holy Spirit) and honestly seeking to be like Christ will soon see the Catholic faith IS THE COMPLETION OF ALL THE GOOD IN THEIR OWN PARTIAL FAITH, should they just begin to examine it –110% guaranteed!
Here is the point of truth for you sentenil, if you can here just admit “these people here really do have a point that I need to reexamine here” you will be on your way to the next wonderful doorway to truth, etc. etc etc. You are clearly dead wrong in your view of divine prophecy and in the way you discern the true from the false just as multitudes of others also are. You have a Pharisaical view and its destroying or dulling your spirit. So become the light God created you to be. That will require openness to learning the truth.
Nothing I was saying suggests I support “sola scriptura” you are deflecting as the Christmas prophecy of mdm simply failed and there is no where to hide on that one. The fact that you pretend to judge someone you have not met shows how absurd your position is. Using ad hominems is a sure sign someone is losing the argument.
Please recheck your logic. Isn’t it true that there were no conditionals mentioned in the Jonah prophecy? Yet it did not happen within 40 days, right? Hence according to your logic (not an ad hominem), Jonah is a false prophet too. And what a red herring – nothing was mentioned about “sola scriptura”.
But you are consistent with the pharisees. Luke 11:47-49 – “Woe to you who build the monuments of the prophets: and your fathers killed them. Truly you bear witness that you consent to the doings of your fathers: for they indeed killed them, and you build their sepulchres. For this cause also the wisdom of God said: I will send to them prophets and apostles; and some of them they will kill and persecute. That the blood of all the prophets which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation, From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, who was slain between the alter and the temple: Yea I say to you, It shall be required of this generation.” The process of the First Coming repeats for the Second Coming.
The conditionals did not need to be mentioned any Jew would know that from what is in Jeremiah as I noted earlier. It’s always easy to call someone a pharisee but ad hominems are bad form in a debate and say more about you than me.
Any true practicing Catholic would know that chastisement prophecies, spiritual chastisements included, can always be delayed and mitigated through prayer. Admit it, the Jonah timing prophecy did not happen on time because of delay, yet it happened. Dissing Biblical precedent is dangerous ground.
Listen folks, please. I’m concerned we are spending way too much time on issues – back and forth – day and night, instead of actually DOING what Our Blessed Mother – and Jesus – have asked us to do at this time – because we are focused on the computer, because, in reality, we are “preaching to the choir”. Very few are interested. THE WARNING will take care of all that!
What we are supposed to be spending time on praying the Crusade Prayers daily and forming groups who come together and pray weekly, the Crusade Prayers. After all, they were given to us from God the Father, Our Lord and Mother Mary! They want us to pray what THEY want us to pray.
Don’t waste time trying to debate this one and that! THE WARNING will straighten it all out for those who are in the dark – pray for these people – the elderly who may die before The Warning, the children, esp. teenagers – Mother Mary is VERY concerned about them. Those who are in mortal sin. We can help her bring souls to Her Son!
SENTENIL, “The Lord sees not as man sees, man sees the outward appearance but the Lord looks upon the heart” You unfortunately have the same carnal eyes and heart that so many of the covenant people in Jesus day who could not see Him as Messiah. They also misread their Scriptures! Most of the Jewish people completely missed the boat and they were far more faithful to the Temple than Catholics today. Any true Christmas at the Vatican — even its hypocritical “performance” — was overshadowed, and THUS REPLACED by this show of concern for the material needs of the poor. SENTENIL, you speak as one who not only totally oblivious to who Francis is and who he was as Bergoglio but the present state of the apostasy that now dominates the Church whose agenda is precisely to replace true Christmas with the completely false Judas one! You need to do some real homework here!
Entirely laughable, Our Lord was quite concerned with the poor as surely most popes have been. And Christmas wasn’t replaced, Pope Francis celebrated Midnight Mass as usual, that assertion is entirely erroneous. The raffle was conducted privately without any show whatever so in what sense did that replace anything? You guys only thrive on censoring posts here, if you let people tell the truth about the Midnight Mass you might lose your audience. So not only are you insecure in your point of view you are DISHONEST!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/the-pope/11313028/Pope-Francis-celebrates-Christmas-Eve-mass-in-St.-Peters-Basilica.html
Nonsense. We have been debating about the delay in fulfilling this prophecy.
Dear Donna, Midnight Mass was not celebrated! That’s a Change in itself. Most likely they had “Their” private Ceremony in the basement or a special room for Masonic Worship of Satan in the Vatican. Knowing the demonic, disgusting, sacrilegious acts of these men, they couldn’t miss that opportunity, and MDM received that Message before hand.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/the-pope/11313028/Pope-Francis-celebrates-Christmas-Eve-mass-in-St.-Peters-Basilica.html
The video shows Christmas Mass. Is this the Mass offered 2 or 3 hrs. BEFORE Midnight?
The modern Church does silly things like that, e.g. “Midnight Mass” at 10PM for “security.”
RC, further on your point of actually canceling a pronounced judgment is the one of modifying or mitigating it. Here may be a case more of mitigation and one done by the enemy out of fear of making the fulfillment too obvious and in order to confuse and cause doubt in the undiscerning. People so easily forget this is a war between Heaven and the Enemy.
Another example of mitigation was in the beginning of the 1290 days (according to Daniel) that the “Sacrifice would be taken away” IN AN OFFICIAL SENSE. That happened in a much subdued way last Holy Week, 2014: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPbvaBdIlEQ Here the supposed “pope” Francis overruled a bishop and gave permission for a woman to receive communion who had “re”-married while still married to another, and declared his public denial of the Holy Sacrifice by saying “what does a little bread and wine hurt?” This travesty while horrifying was still an occasion of great rejoicing for those of us who discerned what happened because this was evidence that the Chastisement would likely be shortened by a year, just as our Lord said would happen as recorded in the Holy Gospels! Indeed proof came because the Enlightenment, the Miracle, the revelation of Anti-Christ and the Chastisement did not happen following this in 2014! The more pronounced “taking away of the Daily Sacrifice” will possibly take place in this year’s Holy Week.
There is also the case of the promise of the entombment of Christ to be “three days and three nights.” We know from the revelations to Maria Valtorta that this time was shortened by the prayers of Holy Mother Mary to the period of Friday before sundown to early Sunday morning at sunrise. Technically going by our (Roman) reckoning rather than Jewish you still can get parts of 3 days and 3 nights out of this but to the undiscerning this is a real stumbling block to those who really do not care enough to really want the truth a serious characteristic of human pride.
The same is true for Daniel’s predicted 483 years from the end of the Babylonian captivity of Israel to the Birth of the Savior. However, a 15 year delay in the temple construction brought the time to AD 15, but again it was the prayers of Holy Mary in her youth that allowed heaven to calculate this period not in solar years but in lunar years which are precisely 15 years shorter for a 483 year period bringing His Birth back to “December” Chislev 25,1 BC during the Feast of Lights.
Dave, the abomination of desolation has not yet occurred because that is the invalidation of the Mass, the perpetual Sacrifice of the new covenant.
RC, then you do not think the 1290 days of denial of the Daily Sacrifice has begun, right? If that is true then the Triumph will not come in 2017 but a year later in 2018. But then how then do you explain what seems impossible to ignore that the Illumination(Warning), the revelation of AntiChrist, denial of the Daily Sacrifice, and the Miracle was to have taken place last spring, before Joey Lomangino died? He was told he would get his new eyes at the Miracle.
I also suggest the Abomination of the Greek enforced cessation of the sacrifice in the Jewish temple under Antiochus Epiphanes, who later brought the abomination of a pig, was a possible pattern for the same “two stage” Abomination in the Vatican. The prediction of Daniel was that the Altar would be without a sacrifice was for 2300 evening and morning sacrifices. This is 3 years and 55 days before the Altar would be purified at what would be called the Feast of Lights. The Abomination of the offering of the pig by Antiochus came 55 days into that period because that pollution lasted exactly 3 years. I would be willing to conclude that Francis is himself the first abomination and particularly in his public denial of the Sacrifice of Christ. Does anyone really think Francis is truly consecrating the species? So has not the Sacrifice been taken away?
David webster
Does anyone really think he is consecrating the species ? So has not the sacrafice been taken away ?
This is my very FALLIBLE OPINION on that question.
I beleive there is a valid consecration when francis uses bread and wine says the words of consecration with NO belief in the REAL presence. The 3 things needed for a valid sacrament are matter ( bread & wine ) not cookies and milk form- words of consecration not your own words , and intention to carry out this sacrament. matter i dont think is a problem unless its a cookie mass ,words of consecration that we hear at a public mass by francis is the form of consecration. Now the BIG question is that of intention, i beleive that even if francis ( false prophet) doesnt beleive in the real presence as do lots of priests in the concillar church ,that by getting vested for mass in a church or outside to publically offer mass for the faithful present , as long as the matter and form are correct that makes the intention present ,i beleive the church does cover us in these situations because we can not know the subjective nature of anyone’s soul even if the actual priest or francis does not beleive in the real presence of Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament. Now most sedevacanists beleive the new rite of ordination to be invalid others very doubtful so they say dont go there ( i do not hold this position) also sedevacantists and some others beleive the new rite of consecration to be invalid or at very least doubtful even if said by a priest ordained in the old rite (i do not hold this postion ) even though i dont hold the position of a sedvancatist i respect what they have to say listen to alot of different opinions they have and in reality they can make very strong theological aruguments for their position, although i dont agree. In my opinion it would be silly to dismiss everything they say because of validity of ordinations and sacraments. i understand my position may seem strange because i dont fit into a category but i think satan would rather have worlwide desecration & sacrilage of the blessed sacrament than non at all. We have to remember that receiving Our Lord in a state of mortal sin is a great sacraliage which i think happens every sunday in churches all over the world most especially in the concillar church i was sadly 1 of them for many years and now i show as much reverence as i can for Our Lord in the blessed sacrament. Now has the daily sacrafice been taken away ? I dont beleive it has yet and i beleive its only going to be taken away from the new mass when it changes yet again soon !. the TLM will have the real presence even in them times but it wont be in the main stream church under francis ( 1 world religion ) there will be pockets of the remnant priests offering the mass and hearing confessions. Im sure theres lots of people dont agree with me on some points if you want to ask me any questions in good will feel free
I think we should remember just because of the state of the church and the abuses & sacrilege that happen weekly regarding the blessed sacrament. That sudnt make us think well he must not be present remember satanists ard still stealling them for black masses and i hope im wrong but i would imagine some priests even consecrate so that the host made used in these santanic rituals. What im trying to say is because it seems so evil so bad so wrong i think we would be wrong to think our lord isnt really present because he wouldnt allow this to happen to himself. unfortunaley free will is a great gift from GOD if used correctly but we must not be under any illusions satan wants people doing these things out of pure contempt for GOD
Dear John6, it has now come to the point that if someone attends a Novus Ordo Mass, and are intending to receive Holy Communion, they must know that priest has the intent of consecrating the host into the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ. How does one know? You have to ask the priest, esp. if he is not your parish priest. This is where we are, in these demonic times we are living in. We decided to attend only known Traditional priests who offer the Tridentine Mass of all time. Hope this helps, John.
Hi anne thanks for your concern. I think you may of misunderstood what i was trying to say. I was answering the question that david webster put forward about the validity of consecreation by francis and the question has the daily sacrafice been taken away. Although i may be wrong i know where i personally stand and dont have a problem in regards to just this topic the validity of consecreation in the novus ordo mass . i to attend the TLM and of course would urge all catholics to do the same. I agree with you in that we should ask the priest this question but even if the priest says yes i would still say that regular attendence of the TLM is far more likely to increase your faith and give you a greater devotion to the blessed sacrament.
Anybody with serious doubts about validity of sacraments the best advice i would give is go to the SSPX or any other clergy ordained in the old rite who offer the TLM and receive all the sacraments as i beleive GOD intended them to be received in the old (roman) rite. My personal position consists of staying away from the novus ordo mass but like i said in the other post i beleive intention is there when the matter & form are correct which obviously people will disagree with me which is fine. In short when i attend a funeral thats in the novus ordo church as long bread & wine are being used and the words of consecration are being said i beleive our lord is present even if it may seem like the priest doesnt beleive so by the way he is handling our lord. I still get up to receive unless i need to make a confession.The day i think theres no consecreation taking place i wound not attend at all. I dont blame anybody for disagreeing with me. If your unsure about validity dont go there find a TLM. Another thing just come to mind even if the priest at a novus ordo church says he believes in the real presence he most likely will have a few different so called eucharistic ministers on the rota and probably would not bother about people receiving in the hand and worse still may even allow lay men & women to hold a eucharistic service with no priest present no mass being offered up to GOD but lay people handling our lord out from 1 hand to another. The devil is far more clever than we like to think as most of the people doing these things may well be nice caring people who think their doing a good thing and most likely think they are serving GOD.
Thank you for your reply. We are very fortunate to be able to pray daily the MDM Crusade Prayers by categories… and follow the instructions given to us by Jesus and Mary to prepare for The Warning and Second Coming. I never thought getting old would be awesome – time wise.
Thank you John6. I was not aware that intention to consecrate could be relegated solely to the communicants perception of intent and not include of necessity the intent of the priest. I have a hard time with that one. Would like more clarification of this point if possible. To me Heaven can and most certainly will make up any serious deficiency caused by the failure of a priest to consecrate for the faithful. “Heaven is not bound by the Sacraments” Our concern should not be so much for individual cases of being unjustly deprived of the Sacrament, but for preserving the overall faith of the Church in the absolute wonderful reality of the Gift of Our Lord Body Soul and Spirit — the evidence of the incredibly intimate love Our Lord has for His people.
But I still think “take away” could mean a verbal denial. It would be a taking away of the truth of the Sacrifice in the hearts of the faithful. That of course even leads to a taking away in a literal sense for those who leave the Church as a result of this apostacy.
The postponement of the full blown complete fulfillment of the Warning and Miracle leaving only mitigated events at St. Peter’s during Holy week 2014 seems certain that this began the 1290 days because the 3 1/2 years of Chastisement was obviously shortened to 2 1/2 years. (And shortening the Chastisement is the only way to explain the Joey Lomingino death before the full blown Miracle) Not only was the “taking away of the Sacrifice” mitigated but we also had a mitigated Warning (Enlightenment) in the spectacular February 15, 2014 asteroid hit in Russia and a near miss to earth of another on the very same day. The mitigated Abomination was the pagan Egyptian goddess floral arrangement at St.Peters during Holy Week. If we are not counting the 1290 days of the “taking away of the Sacrifice” from April 21, 2014 but from perhaps sometime later with its more significant fulfillment, then the Mass will not be “restored” until a least a year after the end of the Chastisement and the Triumph which is not possible.
David
il Post a video of fr gregory hesse below
I think he refers to St Thomas aquinas on the point on intention. See the same could be said of a priest hearing a confession and according to the church its a grave sin but the priest thinks theres not much wrong with it so he gives absolution but subjectivly he doest’nt consider it a sin so the same problem again he really doesnt have the intention himself but by being an ordained priest sat in the confessional hearing confessions and then giving absolution i would say its most certainly valid and the church would cover you in these circumstances. ( my opinion) I dont beleive we get to the judgment seat of our lord and the 1 sin we confessed to a priest that didnt have the proper intention from him therefore made the sacrament invalid therefore hell i dont beleive that for 1 second. But the problem is alot of priests in the novus ordo church dismiss certain sins, thats why its hard to blame the sede’s etc for holding their particular views its just safer and better to be in instructed by a faithful traditional catholic priest and receive all sacraments in the old rite. But if your lukewarm in faith have no mode of transport and little money it might not be possible to find such a priest. Only when the mass changes agian which is soon possibly after the synod ?(still think thats to early ) do i think the daily sacrafice will be taken away before the antichrist takes his place.
http://youtu.be/2gPX7XEBdUQ
34min + talks about validity of consecreation in new mass in the Latin & vernacular fr hesse says basically words of consecreation in Latin in new mass are valid in English he thinks it’s not because of the change in the form [for many] too [for all ] which since 2011 has now been changed to the original [for many] obviously it’s only his theological opinion but I think what is true is that he says he can’t scienctificly and dogmatically proof himself correct and vice versa so he says the only certainty is that there’s is a doubt which in church law means if you doubt the sacrament then you shouldn’t partake. We have to remember just because a sacrament is valid meaning it takes place doesn’t mean it’s licit (allowed) so some modernist priests who allow horrible things to happen during mass if matter & form are correct then valid consecreation takes place but the mass itself could be illicit (not allowed) our lord in my opinion is still present. As of pre 2011 I beleive where matter & form are correct even though [for all ] is a wrong translation the consecreation still took place. This article talks of a eucharistic minister [new rite of mass] so there you would have illicit [not allowed etc]but valid [it takes place] mass. Eucharistic miracles in 1992 , 1994, 1996 buenos aires link below
http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/english_pdf/BuenosAires1.pdf
The Novus Ordo is perfectly valid when said properly. The “for all” older English translation does not invalidate it since the essential words are said at the consecration. Pope Benedict XVI fixed that in the newer English translation.
Valid when matter & form are correct but still illicit the new mass is the masons work it is the Trojan horse to a 1 world religion it would be impossible for the 1 world religion to spring out of the old mass so new mass gradually going worse destroying faith until francis finally changes to accommodate the Antichrist
Way to go John6. You are absolutely right. About time this topic has fluxed toward The Antichrist.
I wrote quite a long comment but doesn’t seem to be showing at the moment il post a video below of fr Gregory hesse. I think not sure its St Thomas aquinas who says intention is there when form and matter are correct
http://youtu.be/2gPX7XEBdUQ
1hour 2mins
Sorry for 2nd post
Webpage contradicting some of my points on the mew rite of mass
http://www.realnews247.com/new_mass_in_english_invalid.htm
Bless all for seeing the darkness of what Francis is doing. As was mentioned, Francis did NOT celebrate Midnight Mass on Christmas. Even Father Rossica’s site states that the false prophet gave his homily at the Midnight Mass celebrated at 9:30 P.M. Rome time. That is 2 1/2 hours before Midnight, giving Francis and his cronies plenty of time to do anything they wanted and out of sight of the public at Midnight Rome time. Based on what we see and hear publicly from this man, what is he actually doing when the humble cameras are not photographing humble him? If you notice the photo of his private chambers where he sleeps Francis has not one icon or image of Jesus or Mary anywhere to be found. Odd for a “pope,” no? Notice also that in his very first Christmas Mass when he is to put the Babe in the Manger, Francis ensured that the Holy Child’s Crown had been removed. Compare photos of Benedict kissing the Crowned Christ Child vs. Francis kissing the Child’s knee instead with no Crown. Also, the fact that a woman stole the Christ Child from the Nativity scene as she bared herself with the words “God is a woman,” may not have been just a crazy person acting alone, but on the instructions of others, as she showed great merry once captured by the police. If Francis cared about this act, he would have condemned it, but nary a word can we find that he did. Instead, she was released the next day in an “act of mercy.” I dare say all of these human-focused acts certainly have changed the way Christmas has been celebrated in the Vatican.
Yes, Simeon, I posted my suspicions about this a day or 2 ago – They have Masonic Ritual Black Masses AND sacrifices. What better time to crucify the Baby Jesus, King, than at Midnight Dec. 25th. Disgusting. Dear Jesus, forgive them, for they know not what they are doing!
Absolutely right, Anne. We have such naïve faithful who place their trust in the position of the Authority as opposed to comprehending the abuse of that Authority by those trusted with it. With the public scandal and subsequent cover-up of abusive priests a known fact regarding our hierarchy, how can one trust anything these heretics do in private? I will agree with your prayer for our great King and God to forgive, but, unfortunately, I believe they know exactly what they are doing.
You’re right, Simeon. The Judases in our time frame, out weigh the Pharisees in evil intent and actions. I wouldn’t be surprised if “demons walking the earth”, as Jesus pointed out to us in MDM, are amongst these prelates.
Those betrayers are Satan’s minions who’ve sworn loyalty to him, and are totally blinded to what awaits them – an unimaginable ETERNITY in the Fires of Hell, if they refuse the last Mercy offered them. We offer the Crusade Prayers for them as Jesus asked of us.